A Mercenary's Tricks

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A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Dorn » Sat Jan 16, 2016 9:30 am

Something similar to Artisan's with Forging, unlocking some abilities the further their... Melee? Increases.

Basically, a combination ability that just slowly grants Mercenaries Feint/Disarm without the use of two ability slots. Could even throw in tackle.

Wouldn't get them instantly, as if you'd done it via Generalized, but by a certain Melee, you'd get all 2 (or 3) for 1.
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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Kunren » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:44 am

Interesting! I like the idea, though I can see some problems in places.
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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Acarin » Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:41 pm

I don't like the idea of combining abilities for one guild while the rest of us are forced to use multiple ability slots. I'm of the mindset that abilities should be the same "cost" across the board. That's not to say that I'm against developing a set of mercenary tricks that unlock... just not free already existing abilities

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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby mercer » Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:44 pm

the mercs could use a trick or 2 sense most of there abilities are either gone or generalized there is nothing making them mercs you could easily be guildless and it wouldnt matter. who noes, that might be the point

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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Acarin » Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:47 pm

mercer wrote:the mercs could use a trick or 2 sense most of there abilities are either gone or generalized there is nothing making them mercs you could easily be guildless and it wouldnt matter. who noes, that might be the point


My point is that this is not giving them anything unique. It is consolidating existing abilities... and mercenaries certainly have enough ability slots at the moment. New UNIQUE abilities are certainly deserved, not consolidated old abilities.

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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Rias » Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:50 pm

What about the recent combination of two existing Claw abilities that you supported?
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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Acarin » Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:58 pm

Rias wrote:What about the recent combination of two existing Claw abilities that you supported?


My support was for the purpose of consolidation... and these were abilities that were UNIQUE to shar, one of which was considered largely pointless by many to take. They were not two general abilities that a particular guild got for cheaper. I'm not clear why you're bringing that suggestion into this. I have nothing against combining guild specific abilities or general abilities, but I am very much against combining general abilities for a specific guild while everyone else has to use multiple abilitity slots.... especially considering the issue is the mercs do not have enough of their own abilities.

I wouldn't be against combining these in the general ability system, but am strongly against combining them for a single guild. I've suggested other consolidations as well (for guild specific abilities), and I hope the GMs will continue to make these adjustments where appropriate... just not in this manner. I also think that dirty tricks, for example, should be more consolidated in the GENERAL system.

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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Rias » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:01 pm

Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying. In that case, I think I agree. I'm also not sold on this idea of combining feint/disarm into a single ability for Mercenaries. They both seem quite potent and effective on their own, and I think are both worth their ability point costs.
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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby mercer » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:03 pm

i agree not like mercs have trouble saving slots anyway

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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Jirato » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:05 pm

I too am against the idea of making any guild abilities to supersede general abilities. The point of Mercenaries and Wyrvardn is they have that much more points to spend on general abilities without having to feel like they're locked in to reserving X number of points on guild-only stuff.
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Re: A Mercenary's Tricks

Postby Dorn » Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:12 pm

Fair enough. It was simply a simple idea that poked in my head, considering they were both originally Mercenary abilities anyway, so thought I'd post.
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